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 Post subject: NOTAM 05-25 -- Updated December Schedule
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:27 am 
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An updated December schedule (deleting the extraneous flights) has been uploaded to the server. All pending flight reservations have been deleted. UVA regrets the inconvenience but believe this reflects our commitment to fixing problems as soon as we are able to.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:33 am 
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has the excel file also been updated?

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Yes, the excel file has been updated. However, there are so many errors in this schedule (flight #s not matching Equips & routes) that it seems like we will be better off with the November Sched. Anyone else seen this?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:40 am 
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David Fianko wrote:
Yes, the excel file has been updated. However, there are so many errors in this schedule (flight #s not matching Equips & routes) that it seems like we will be better off with the November Sched. Anyone else seen this?


David,

Can you provide an example of the type of error you are referring to?
We can only check, verify, and respond if we knew what we are looking for.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:54 am 
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Here are examples:
763 flights from KORD to KDEN. Flights 353, 259 & 251
763 flights KDEN to KORD 258, 353, 958, 932(not sure) & 252
763 flights KIAD to KORD 395.......etc

Im sure you see what im talking about now. I suggest downloading the schedule again if possible from UAL.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:17 am 
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David,

I see what you are trying to say now. Please note that Dave had mentioned earlier that we had to work with a different type of file from United this month, and it is now a lot harder for us to filter all flights like we used to. However all flights in the schedule are correct depending on which day of December you are looking at.

I will try to explain the details with the first flight on your list which is flight UA353.

In the UVA December schedule it shows the following flights as UA353
353 TUL - DEN 06:50:00 AM 07:35:00 AM 733
353 DEN - LAX 08:42:00 AM 10:13:00 AM 733
This segment from TUL - LAX is valid real life United flight until December 14th. Further detail shows that the first segment from TUL to DEN is available everyday of the week until December 14th, however the second leg from DEN - LAX is available everyday of the week EXCEPT 11/25, 12/4, and 12/11.


353 ORD - DEN 06:00:00 AM 07:32:00 AM 763
353 DEN - SFO 08:32:00 AM 10:18:00 AM 763
This segment from ORD to SFO is valid real life United flight effective from December 15 all the way to January 8th. It is available everyday of the week and the equipment is changed from the B733 to the B763.


We believe the real world United is making adjustments to the route and capacity with larger equipment in order to cope with the holiday travelling passengers.

In short, the flight number UA353 is not in error, it simply represents different dates where different arrangements are being made in the real world. Please feel free to compare what I've said here with the real world United schedule if you don't believe me. :D

I also believe that the rest of the flights you've pointed out falls in the same category.

Since we don't have the manpower to give you an update on a daily basis, we had included all flights in December for your enjoyment. For maximum realism, you can always compare and pick the UVA flight that is comparable to the real world United. For example, you would only pick UA353 from TUL - LAX until December 14th and then you will only pick UA353 from ORD to SFO starting from December 15th.

Well, I tried my best to explain what we did this month. Again we are working with a new file format from United and trying to adapt it into our existing system. And believe me Dave, Jim, and myself had spent a lot more time than we'd liked. Please feel free to let us know if we can be of further assistance.

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Thanks alot for the explanation Rich. Yes, I noticed that there were more flights in this schedule, and it all makes sense now. Oh, btw, I believe you :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:10 pm 
Madrid-Barajas is in it, Cool !! 8)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:43 pm 
Carlos Gonz?lez wrote:
Madrid-Barajas is in it, Cool !! 8)


Hmmm.... I'm a bit confused about this one.

LEMD (Madrid Barajas) is not present on December schedule. :?


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LMAD was in the original upload, but fell out due to screening duplicates out of that file. Actually, it's a USAirways codeshare LAX-PHL-MAD and return.

We continue to fine-tune the scripts which produce the UVA schedule, so bear with us.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:09 pm 
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We still have some equipment problems gentlemen. Like on the following flight for example to book the flight the equip was listed as a "752" and this is what I get on the equipment selection screen both before and after having requested dispatch reposition a "757" for me. I think I noticed this error once before a few months ago and it was easily corrected.


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Flight 1141

Departing From: Chicago-O`Hare Intl IL at 02:05:00
Arriving At: Vancouver, Canada at 06:39:00
Equipment:

There are 0 s at Chicago-O`Hare Intl IL

What would you like to do?
Request dispatch reposition an airplane for you
Click here to reserve a different flight


Notice that it is not even showing an equipment type when it comes time to select a tail number. Thanks!

Brian 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:17 am 
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Believe problem is now fixed. Let me know if not.

Dave

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Dave, seems to be 8)

Thanks,

Brian :D

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:00 pm 
Jim Harnes wrote:
LMAD was in the original upload, but fell out due to screening duplicates out of that file. Actually, it's a USAirways codeshare LAX-PHL-MAD and return.

We continue to fine-tune the scripts which produce the UVA schedule, so bear with us.


Until then I can prepare myself to get the Cat IV rating to be able to do that flight :)


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